Guilliman had no illusions. Despite her fiery personality Euten was extremely loyal and matronly to Guilliman and the Ultramarines Primarch in turn would share his misgivings and weaknesses with her in private. ”Roboute Guilliman never forgot what caused his adoptive father's death. Or maybe the Emperor was lying for some reason only he could understand. Still new to the lore, sorry for my ignorance. These additions are joined by a very special episode of Battle Report, which recreates the colossal clash between brothers Roboute Guilliman and Mortarion in a narrative play game. Guilliman is best described as disingenuous, unscrupulous, power-hungry, obsessively controlling, and self-deluded. Emperor meeting with Imperator Guilliman of Ultramar Empire together with President Angron of Nurceria would be hilarious. I believe this excerpt from Dawn of Fire: The Gate of Bones gives the clearest answer we've had so far. Guilliman, one presumes, heeded the warning. ’ A blasphemy intended to provoke the priest. ’. Colquan glared him. 92). Gives a speech about the glory of slaying the enemy, but doesn't actually care, just wants to hold the Warband together. The Emperor's light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally - finally - Guilliman had seen it as a whole. By helping Angron, Guilliman would avoid breeding the same kind of animosity that the Emperor did. ‘The Emperor Himself,’ said Valeneez deferentially. The dawn of a new age of supremacy for humanity beckons. And don't forget how "Lord Guilliman" is actually a title that the commander of all Imperium forces held until the War of the Beast. The being he had thought of as a father could hide nothing from him. It might be the attached Guilliman warp entity being empowered by worship to the point where it can fight Chaos with the help of the Emperor's sword. It is a time of Legend. ’ ‘Betrayer. The Emperor will tolerate the dreams of his sons–but only insofar as they don't interfere with their actual jobs. Guilliman saved her from execution and put her into his newly formed geek squad that tries to uncover true history. We see this in Devastation of Baal, where they vote Dante leader of their campaign -- but not uniformly. Guilliman ultimately wants nothing less than to destroy the Imperium as it exists and rebuild it anew. I also suspect a Guilliman vs Abaddon 1v1 would be deeply interesting if done right. So there's. Despite the Emperor absolutely detesting Roboute Guilliman and wanting his life support cut off, in the Gathering Storm event of 40k canon, Guilliman finally awakens and has the exact same horrified and furious reaction to the bottomless cruelty and stupidity of the 41st millennium Imperium as the text-to-speech Emperor did. A cheap tactic. That being said, Custodes and Guilliman are in good terms, Guilliman has 10 Custodes, 3 terminators and 5 wardens (Custode veterans) and the second highest ranking Csutode as part of his body guards. Business, Economics, and Finance. The Emperor’s plans had failed completely, and suffering was the lot of all men. The God-Emperor has even rallied enough strength to burn the gardens of Nurgle, a. ‘Guilliman. -It was the destiny of the Dark Angels, and all Space Marines to endure constant war. The seeming fact that Dorn held this position in Guilliman's stead until essentially the moment Guilliman arrived, at which point Dorn immediately abdicated and Guilliman took up the role, indicates to me that there was a pre-existing understanding of some sort that Guilliman would take the overall reigns in the Emperor's prolonged absence. Ever since Guilliman came back with the help of Yvraine and Eldrad, people have been asking what his exact stance on working with Xenos is. Guilliman figures out why the Emperor kept Chaos a secret from everybody. The viral zephyrs would cling to the planet for a time before finally feasting upon itself and dissipating, transforming a planet of little life to one of absolutely none. 1 more reply. At the end of Godblight, Roboute Guilliman is Emperor possessing Guiliman, like how some believe he did to the child in Plague Wars. In the end a compromise was wrought between them. "You seriously need to get laid but not even a rock would do it with you. Guilliman is effectively dead on the floor during most of the exchange. Guilliman, one presumes, heeded the warning. Guilliman turned to look at Prayto. It is good to be reminded that I am a person as well as a. "Selfishness" is not just the only Eldar trait. I think there's a difference between channeling into a mind and making something's warp presence of your own image. Later, on the way to Terra with Guilliman, they all died fighting hordes of khorne daemons, with Amalrich (he is emperor's champion and marshall, not castellan) saving Guilliman from Skarbrand. Well, with less. The family looked at Guilliman, then back on screen, then again at Guilliman, the back at the screen. It could very well still be that the Siege took too long and Guilliman and his accumulated forces entered the Sol system leaving Horus no choice but to act right then. A tankard is whipped at supersonic speeds, smashing the Silent King's head off his shoulders. Every Primarchs who hadn't fallen to Chaos had proven their loyalty several times over. Big Papa Blue shows up, wipes the floor with them tactically. Jarax · 8/9/2017. The seeming fact that Dorn held this position in Guilliman's stead until essentially the moment Guilliman arrived, at which point Dorn immediately abdicated and Guilliman took up the role, indicates to me that there was a pre-existing understanding of some sort that Guilliman would take the overall reigns in the Emperor's prolonged absence. Guilliman is the Emperor’s favorite son. Guilliman: Well, at least this one wasn't so bad. Guilliman reminded Helbrecht of the oaths he had sworn, and how his duty as High Marshal was to all the Emperor's realm rather than just being to his own personal vendettas. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. The Emperor appreciates that and it’s why he is so favored, along with his pretty independent action, which probably screws with the Lion’s head to no end. And if the High Lords wish to deny the authority of the Regent, know that they deny themselves to legitimacy of leadership of the Imperium, for they succeeded the Council of Terra on orders of Guilliman's reformation of the Imperium. He could not countenance the thought. What hurt most deeply was what went unsaid. Quel Tarin · 4/6/2017. My personal theory is it wasn't the Emperor who possessed Guilliman, but his[Guilliman's] presence in the Warp. ’ ‘Thief. Option 2: After 10k years of being tortured by a glorified toilet seat, He's got no time to lose on being nice and shit and Guilliman thinking "He must've always. My personal theory is it wasn't the Emperor who possessed Guilliman, but his [Guilliman's] presence in the Warp. The being he had thought of as a father could hide nothing from him. He reached out, and the Emperor’s Sword appeared in his hand, and burned with the fires of a thousand suns. . Could be that the Emperor did not want to answer but the question arises why he did not. Szarekh looks at the gouge Guilliman cuts in his arm/chest, looks at his face, and just goes, "Interesting. Guy Haley. Every person around you considers Him a god, and I simply keep my own counsel on the matter. ‘He created me, but I assure you, priest, that He was no father. When ROGAL DORN of all Primarchs is criticizing the Emperor, you know it's serious. In current 40k Guilliman recognized he had been too much of a yes-man to the Emperor, back during the Great Crusade he really didn't question him and tried to please him, even in detriment to certain principles he hold dear, this is reflected on how he never read the Lectitio Divinitatus as a way to show his support for the Emperor's Imperial. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. Magos Lehm, next one. 31. ‘We were there together. The Emperor did not love His sons. He kinda goes back and forth on it, he's mad because he feels the Emperor looks at him as a tool only to be used to achieve his own ends. Plot summary of Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch. ‘Let me die knowing what you are,’ Guilliman whispered. CryptoGuilliman assumes control of the entire military apparatus of the Imperium as Lord Commander with the Emperor's explicit blessing. Emperor: Guilliman. Perhaps him hearing the Emperor say “you were my tools” was just what Roboute thought all along, thus the illusion fit the image. Sanguinius dying is as important to the creation of the modern Imperium as Uncle Ben dying is to the creation of Spider-Man. In that state, He denies He is cold as Magnus accuses Him of being. One of the most important points in the current Warhammer 40k lore is the encounter between Primarch Roboute Guilliman and the Emperor of Mankind from Warhammer 40000. Populations. - Plague War. And his status as the Emperor's only living, loyal son does come with a lot of clout; but he can't go beating people over the head with it. So, we know that Guilliman talked with the. Guilliman tried to remember how tall the. I would tell Guilliman about what the High Lords of Terra did. The Imperial Regent cannot command the Custodes they dont answer to the emperor, they answer to the Emperor of Mankind. ’ His voice softened further, becoming yet more human, and his heroic expression did not change exactly, but he somehow became more relatable. He heard all these at once. The Adepta Sororitas and Guilliman. Lion fought Chaos at Caliban and Sang fought and died on Terra. From the novel: Plague War. At the same time, he's growing more and more unsure that the Emperor ISN'T a. Guilliman was a rationalist, Lorgar was a quester after metaphysical truths. Then you have wise and morally good Khan and Guilliman. It was the look of the blindly faithful. My theory is that Malcador and the Emperor were also trying to send a lesson to Guilliman. Monarchia, then was both lesson and warning. The Lion is the literal son of the Emperor who lead a legion in the great crusade who's victory tally was second only to Horus and the Luna Wolves. ‘Confess, preacher,’ said Guilliman. In the wiki, this is described quite briefly: Guilliman was left standing alone before the ornate doorway, dwarfed by its immensity. He had never felt sympathy for angron before. Upon looking at all the available primarch weapons though, his seems to be the weakest one out of all of them. He brought Guilliman back to life from the vastly aged husk that Nurgle’s Godblight did to him. Come what may, I have to stop Horus and Guilliman. His words in that matter would be ignored every bit as much as the Ecclesiarchy would ignore him telling them to stop worshipping the Emperor or some suchIn the Regent's Shadow we see Guilliman keeps an obsidian statue bust of Sanguinius in his bedroom, so he definitely misses him quite a bit. 138. Either the Emperor is dead, either he has no longer power to communicate remotely with anyone -which is the same that being dead- either he actually does not care anymore. I think there's a difference between channeling into a mind and making something's warp presence of your own image. 'Guilliman. The traitor Primarchs make sense from their perspectives too. See full list on warhammer40k. He says He’s just pragmatic, as a single weakness would. Both the Emperor and Malcador hint that Guilliman was their back up and they intended for him to take over should the Emperor be lost. Guilliman- I’m literally a son of the Emperor. 000) the User's Guide for Roboute Guilliman; english isn't my first language; Character Study; Summary. 3 views 4 minutes ago. Guilliman- So, better than anyone else in the galaxy, I have the right and knowledge to declare his true nature. No, at no point did the Emperor intend humanity to move en masse into the Webway. Trading the thousands Curze did and might kill was not even with the Lions methods. Guilliman coming back is so important that the emperor, in "dark imperium: plague wars" uses the most heavy handed methods to preserve him, like posessing a little girl, turning her into a saint and using so much power to kill demons and saving guilliman that the girl turned into ash ( i must however warn that it is a point of contention if the. But He spoke. . Think about it, Guilliman was the only primarch whose location was known to the Imperium. That is not to say that the Emperor wasn't always strong. The first, Fulgrim and the Emperor's Children represented the pinnacle of space marines. ‘So my people think he will save them when I cannot?’ Guilliman had asked as he strapped on his ceremonial plate in the Residency’s fitting chamber. I don't know if any others ruled over an interstellar empire besides Dorn and Guilliman, but all of them accomplished something impressive with where they ended up. Crickets_Head • 6 mo. The Emperor and Guilliman complained, his father continuing, "Why the hell would you want it doing that!" "That is an incredibly inefficient method for a rifle. Because it never happens. Out of all the Primarchs, the Emperor directly intervened to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor, this is said to be the only moment in which the Emperor directly interevne to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor and not the Illyrian tribes. Although in his genius Roboute Guilliman excelled at everything Calgar could imagine, in other ways he was a world away from the idealised figure Calgar had imagined all his life. Context: Shortly after the start of the Indomitus-Crusade, an increasing number of Psykers among the. and no, I dont believe Guilliman is a traitor. The Emperor did not love His sons. Your quote appears to be verbatim from the source (p. ago. When Guilliman went into stasis he was objectively a loyal servant of the Emperor. He did not hear them at all. Khan hanged up the phone and turned to his family, raising a hand to silence them for a second and wait. That he accepted, though it was a burden to be so. He will fail in this, but therein lies the tragedy of 40k. They need training in proper language, education, civics, science, etc. ‘Roboute Guilliman. Ever since Guilliman came back with the help of Yvraine and Eldrad, people have been asking what his exact stance on working with Xenos is. Legally infinite functionality limited. Administration. Cypher drops off the Lion Sword. ’. Believe Rumors about the Indomitus-Crusade and Guilliman just being Propaganda. Theoretical, Guilliman thought savagely now, turning his anger against his traitorous mind. I mean, if the chamber militant of the inquisition that are the Grey Knights look to be siding with him, I think pretty much any marine chapter (outside of say, DA and Minotaurs) will. ”. In the new lore the Emperor didn't consider the Primarchs his sons but rather tools to be used and discarded. Guilliman stopped his walking and looked down at the woman. He was there to watch the primarch. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. Context: Shortly after the start of the Indomitus-Crusade, an increasing number of Psykers among the. Guilliman is Justinian. Yes, but you are talking about the events of GodBlight itself, while the info in my post is pointing towards the situation after GodBlight events: "Nurgle's Garden and the entire garden recoils. Here's Guilliman, last of the Primarchs - that aren't dead, disappeared or turned into puppets of the Four. The Cicatrix Maledictum is crossed and Guilliman reaches Baal. Guilliman's return sparked Mortarion's interest in material affairs once more, and for the first time in 10,000 years he decided to lead the whole of the Death Guard in a renewed campaign. Or maybe the Emperor was lying for some reason only he could understand. If He were alive. 1. Then Guilliman shows up at the end, with more, fresh, men, a sizable fleet, and a brand new bible book for everyone to conform too. Saying the exact same thing in 40k is heresy of the highest order because in 40k the Emperor is a god and is intrinsic to the Imperium he rules. ’ ‘Fight me, you coward,’ growled Guilliman. Share. In the old lore, Horus dropped his shields to lure the Emperor aboard the Vengeful Spirit because his time was up and Guilliman and the XIII were coming. If all else went wong Guilliman would be heir to the empire. Losing faith in the Emperor is losing faith in the Imperium. Kristian1805 • 1 yr. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. ‘Guilliman. Euten had told Guilliman that street hawkers and vendors were doing a brisk trade in cheap icons and tin badges displaying the iconography of the First Legion. ‘That axe looks sharp enough to me, brother,’ said Guilliman. "Be at peace , brother," he started , gazing into eyes that were. To Guilliman, the dire state of the Imperium was a horrifying surprise. He was there to watch the primarch. He reached out, and the Emperor’s Sword appeared in his hand, and burned with the fires of a thousand suns. Guilliman's resurrection was symbolic of hope rekindled for the Imperium but he's got this dirty little secret which is that the entire 40k Imperium is FUBAR and has just about zero chance of ascending to its former glory. Eventually, Mortarian and the Death Guard were summoned back to the Scourge Stars, which had come under threat from the War in the Rift. [deleted] • 3 yr. Big E does a little trolling. CryptoYou say that, but he goes out of his way to protect Guilliman, both in 30k and after Guilliman’s revival. Trading the thousands Curze did and might kill was not even with the Lions methods. "The Emperor was working on a timeline that didn’t have much wiggle room That said, he did tell Land that the Nails were the only thing keeping Angron alive and he couldn’t remove them without killing him, so it’s also possible the the Nails have damaged Angron in a way that prevents the Emperor from fixing him after deathMortarion already had quite a bit to say about the appointment of Horus, imagine adding conflicted loyalties and "local" politics to that as well. The Minotaurs can say what they want, if Guilliman wants them to charge into the Cicatrix Maledictum then they'll have to go, regardless of their opinion or whomever they think they report to. Mathieu wanted week to decide. To destroy what they made. ” “No, it is too important… even if what you say is true, I cannot return to Caliban yet. ‘The Emperor denied His own divinity,’ said Guilliman flatly. 6. He was no god when I knew Him, but now…’. Was the Emperor selfish and did He lied. ’ ‘I am not holy,’ said Guilliman. Guy Haley, Dark Imperium (2017)Guilliman's initial reaction: ‘Of all of them… Why did it have to be him who found a way through the storm?’. I gave everything I had to you, to them. The Emperor said it Himself, guilliman is an empirebuilder, more an administrator. Told Nurgle to piss off when orders to retreat came in and exposed nurgles realm to attack from the emperor. ). Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. An Emperor who can still speak clearly and say something like "you will assume this title and do these tasks" is not an Emperor that Guilliman would renounce. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its. This is the BoLS Team’s Murder on the Orient Express/Ocean’s 11 theory for how it goes down: Eldar use the webway to get everyone into the Throne Room. Abaddon kills the Custodes. If the Emperor wins, it will most likely be close to how he won in the old lore - by Horus giving him an oppotunity because of distraction. ’ ‘Guilliman. At least the "blessing by the militant-apostolic" must be jarring for him. A return to the ideals of Unity. The sacrifice required to keep the Emperor alive sickened the primarch. ‘So was Horus. Guilliman and Sanguinius are THE most reasonable Primarchs, the Lion was butthurt and acted like a. Once you have torn that blasphemy down, raise up the population of Baal Secundus. There was great warpcraft in the weapon. ago. " ♫Dammit, wrong number again♫. To my knowledge, the Lion hasn't had a lot of experience with politics. ’. Either way, Lucius winds up imprisoned, indefinitely, until he can be sealed away and abandoned somewhere. ‘Roboute Guilliman. The Silent King looms over him, ready to stab him through the heart. If the Emperor Himself stood up, thought Guilliman, came down off His Golden Throne and proclaimed ‘I am not a god!’ then they would burn Him as a heretic. If Guilliman got his way yes, people would obey him as he would speak for the Emperor, but he wouldn't claim the Emperor was wrong in any way but he could have his "Interpretation" of the Emperor's words essentially treated as gospel. ‘I know that, but I would no sooner bend my knee to him than to Horus. Every time I try to think about this I realize that adding up the age of multiple historical founders of IRL religions still doesn't come close to the age of the Imperium. -Guilliman was misguided in thinking the Emperor was dead, and he did plan on making another Empire. Templars- Sounds right. He was not the man who brought the rasp; he was the rasp". Guilliman didn't know what to say. Guilliman was clad in a magnifcent new suit of armour, an ornate masterwork that had travelled all the way. With the telling quote, Guilliman doesn't know if the Emperor is a god now or not but if he is, he isn't worth worshiping. He had hoped for better from the Primarch. There was great warpcraft in the weapon. ‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. That's the 9 loyal Primarchs, all had reasons for staying loyal. ’ He heard all these at once. NONE OF YOU EVER WERE" bit seemed especially hamfisted and everything started to fall apart afterward in terms of the cohesiveness if the writing. ’ Guilliman looked at the girl’s mutilated body. His body was a pilgrimage site for nearly ten thousand years. ’. Big E does a little trolling. ‘No axe can ever be too sharp,’ the man replied without looking up. Like let's say the emperor on the throne is one man and the one possessing women and zapping untold amounts of enemies is a new chaos god who just hasn't found his evil. This is why the Emperor never made Guilliman Warmaster, he didn't want to make him a bigger target or influence him away from his purpose. Guilliman is a Warrior King Statesman there to stabilize the Empire and stop (or slow) the rot. Both the Emperor and Malcador hint that Guilliman was their back up and they intended for him to take over should the Emperor be lost. Essentially, he's basically in control of the entire Imperium. Mathieu the priest doesn't very much like that but cannot do anything about it because she's a close friend and subordinate to Guilliman. Thus, by definition, the Inquisition is his to command. An Emperor who can still speak clearly and say something like "you will assume this title and do these tasks" is not an Emperor that Guilliman would renounce. ‘Guilliman. In addition of being tasked of punishing the Thousand Sons, it is (not that) subtly hinted that the Space Wolves were tasked to eliminate the Second and Eleventh Legions. ADB said Abaddon defeated the Horus clone in the same way he would've beaten the true Horus: the clone was no weaker according to him (though he did allow for it being soulless) The reason why Abaddon wins is because that's the point of the scene: Abaddon usurps his father's mantle. ‘You remember it,’ continued Guilliman. Faith was his mode of thought, and Guilliman had disdained it. ago. ago. He judges human societies in an absolute sense measured against the ideals of the Emperor and himself. Put simply: Guilliman does not believe in cultural relativism. Guilliman vs Mortarion on Iax. He heard all these at once. You and your ilk forget that to the peril of us all. If the Emperor did somehow physically revive humanity would immediately be the most dominant force in the Universe. Guilliman cannot merely say that he fights for the Emperor or in His name. And while Abbadon handily wins the duel and the battle, ruining the Imperial world and getting his claws on whatever he needed there, Guilliman's strategy and forces will eventually win the war, and renew the world. It is unknown to any but Guilliman whether or not Guilliman actually had any communication with his father during his time in the throne room, but I say it didn't happen, maybe it was all in his head, and here is why: It is said that Lion El'Johnson, mortally wounded during his fight with Luther, was taken in secret by the Watchers in the Dark. ‘Worship the Emperor, if you must, but I am not deserving of your praise, nor will I. ‘Death to the false Emperor,’ said the voice Guilliman had thought belonged to Aeonid Thiel. ago. That is not to say that the Emperor wasn't always strong. No random Rogue trader is gonna talk with. Context: Guilliman is fighting an army of daemons and has an epiphany about the nature of daemons, the warp and their connection to mankind's minds. Do we have any information or literature on how pissed…Guilliman is Julius Gaius called Caesar's proxy. Guilliman was loyal to the Imperium while believing the Emperor, a man, had died. Guilliman turns, finds another, punches his giant fist through the legionary’s torso, and pulls it out, ripping out his backbone. He can insist that he thought the Emperor was dead all he wants but in 40k that’s not the mitigating circumstances, it’s the crime. ‘But in your holiness, you did not turn. Where before Roboute Guilliman had sat, a pale, stasis-locked revenant, now the Primarch stood awake, alert and very much alive. The Custodians' captain-general gave it to him; Guilliman did not begrudge the priest his awe. genteel_wherewithal • 4 yr. ’ Achallor dipped his head. ‘His actions enrage you, and yet he eluded you,’ said Guilliman. 7. Quel Tarin · 3/3/2021. Guilliman is NOT the Emperor and his "forgiveness" would be irrelevant. IMO Abbadon < Guilliman < Chaos-Empowered Abbadon = Emperor-Empowered Guilliman. The Emperor to break character and talk to his sons remotely, which he couldn't be asked to do when Guilliman returned, when Horus was tempted, when Magnus fell to the dark powers, when Russ went to arrest Magnus, and a lot of other times. I find this hard to believe due to a couple of reasons below. ‘Father,’ he said, and when he had said that word, it was the last time he had meant it. ’ ‘I fear he is beyond hope. He heard all these at once. The Lion needs the reminder. The Primarchs are already called demigods throughout Godblight. ‘Yes,’ Mathieu smiled serenely. ’ A blasphemy intended to provoke the priest. When Guilliman had his initial conversation with the Emperor after returning, he finds this out. Before Roboute reunited with his real father, the Emperor, he was taken care of by Konor Guilliman, one of the two Consuls of Macragge. 'Roboute Guilliman. The Emperor’s light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally – finally – Guilliman had seen it as a whole. His work was all for nothing. ‘I find your familiarity refreshing. When Guilliman meets the Lion again in 40k. Guilliman reminded Helbrecht of the oaths he had sworn, and how his duty as High Marshal was to all the Emperor's realm rather than just being to his own personal vendettas. Anybody who says anything other than "it could potentially go either way" is being silly. In the books Guilliman describes the Emperor as not only full of bullshit for his 'oh, I totally need you, you're the bestest', but also describes the Emperor as unsubtle and infinitely cold. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. When the blade had been presented to Guilliman by the captain-general of the Adeptus Custodes after the Emperor’s fall, it had somehow fitted his primarch’s stature. 6. "Lorgar’s arguments are persuasive, but are built on several fallacies for all that. When the Emperor appears to Magnus during the Siege, He projects into Magnus’ mind as a glowing sun-god and they burn through the warp together, moving through billions of years in moments. Inspired and masterminded by the return of the legendary Primarch, the Ultramar Campaign was soon won, with the resurgent Imperial. ’ ‘For the Emperor,’ Colquan responded. At some point you must realize that there exists things other then governance. Like his “brothers,” Roboute was taken as an infant by the powers of Chaos, and removed to a far-flung world in an effort to prevent the coming Age of the Imperium. Guilliman was nobility writ large, a monument in flesh. One more theory is that the Emperor was setting up for a civil war between the Primarchs as Malcador discussed in Malcador - The First Lord of the Imperium. I want Guilluman to name the Lion the Warmaster of Imperium Nihilus and send him off into the darkness with a massive fleet to absolutely fuck shit up. To be a regent of a monarchs is to have the exact authority rights and respect of that monarch in his or her stead. Guilliman had no illusions. Two things, from what I understand: 1) The Ultramarines were the biggest Legion of the HH so Guilliman could strong-arm the other primarchs, and 2) Guilliman is generally depicted as the "statesman Primarch", very good at administration and persuasion, especially after Horus was gone. Within the universe, Guilliman very well may be capable of showing them all a better way (notwithstanding that this "better way" is coming from a man who commits genocide on a Tuesday), which is exactly why out of universe it'll never happen. He said and did what he had to so he could escape. ’ ‘Failure. 21. He would just do that, not complain. Guilliman- I’m also Lord Commander of the Imperium, and our last, best hope to save humanity. EDIT: lol so many salty Ultra fanboys in this sub in denial about what their mascot actually said and didWhen the blade had been presented to Guilliman by the captain-general of the Adeptus Custodes after the Emperor’s fall, it had somehow fitted his primarch’s stature. As soon as it turns sunshine and rainbows it's not 40k anymore. If all else went wrong, he would be heir to the empire. For a moment, Guilliman contemplates being a farmer with a simpler life. While the emperor wasn't a god at the start, 10000 years of the imperial creed being worshipped over thousands of planets has changed that. Guilliman is the Regent - his word is as if it came from the Emperor. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. As you say, Guilliman does spend a lot of time in the Heresy on Imperium. A lot of people believe that the Lion will start a civil war against Guilliman after waking up and seeing what the Imperium has become. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. The rest of 30k still feels pretty grim. The Emperor's Sword is just a sweep attack weapon now and that feels similar to everyone else. 10k years ago humans didn't even have pictograms, and yet the Imperium has kept the same general religion the whole time. Guilliman's difficulties do not even begin to approximate those faced by the Emperor. Mathieu was thankfully unmoved. Because Guilliman simply toed the line. This is after his "death" and resurrection, his meeting with the Emperor and his experiences with the Inquisition and Ecclesiarchy. Instead of sending the boy to his doom, Guilliman instead adopts him, and raises as his own son rather than forge him into a tool for the Imperium. ‘Was he as gifted as they say the Great Angel was?’ ‘He was,’ said Guilliman. Practical, the Emperor is not a god. Because a) I hate the High Lords, and b) I would rather take a coast to coast trip through Commoragh than even attempt to strike the only loyal son of the Emperor. I understand that you can’t sell a story without emotion, but Guilliman wouldn’t act entirely dissatisfied and depressed.